A lot lot LOT of game talking went on tonight. I think we are basically back where we started with Candice going home, but that didn't stop a lot of plans and freak-outs from happening.
When I first turned on the feeds tonight, Amanda was telling Aaryn about how she would like to win HOH this coming week and put up Helen and Jessie with the option of backdooring Judd OR possibly just sending Helen home.
While Amanda was having this talk with Aaryn, Jessie, Helen, and Elissa were plotting a way to get the votes to keep Candice and take Amanda out while they had the chance and she was on the block. They discussed how it would have to work, and came to the conclusion that they needed to first pull Andy's vote and then Judd's. Helen having no idea that Andy is much more loyal to Amanda than her, decided to go ahead and pull him into the storage room to talk to him about it. Andy of course immediately said "no no NO!!" to the idea of voting out Amanda. He told Helen he didn't feel comfortable with doing it this week. Helen told Andy that she had heard that Amanda had plans to get her out the next week. I'm not sure if she had really heard that or not, but if she was lying, it was a good one since it's actually kind of true. Andy told her he had never heard anything from Amanda about wanting Helen out, and they needed to stay solid. While they were talking, Aaryn was listening outside of the door to the storage room and then entered in the middle of the conversation. She asked what they were talking about and they lied and said they were trying to figure out how they were going to tell Candice that she was going home.
Knowing that what she heard was a lie, Aaryn pulled Amanda into the have-not room to tell her everything she had heard. Andy was not far behind Aaryn to come and spill what Helen had been saying to him. He gave Amanda a much lighter version of what had been said and told her to NOT freak out or let anyone know that she knew what was going on. They discussed making some deals or new alliances that might make Helen trust Amanda more and not want her out, then Andy left. Aaryn continued telling Amanda that she was pretty sure that people were going to vote her out this week because she was certain that Jessie and Helen were going to be able to pull Judd's vote.
At the moment Aaryn was saying this, Helen was telling Judd about the plan in the storage room and trying to get his thoughts on it. Like Andy, Judd said no, and that it was not a good idea for their game this week to turn on Amanda and get people after them in favor of keeping Candice who he had never talked any game with.
Although Amanda had been told by Andy to tell no one and not to freak out, she was apparently incapable of holding her tongue, and immediately ran outside to where Helen and Elissa were sitting and started crying to them saying "I just have a feeling there is a plan to get me out and something is going wrong this week.". They assured her that this was not the case and that she was totally safe because they were all voting to evict Candice.
Meanwhile, Aaryn pulled Judd into the have-not room to ask him a bunch of questions about who he was going to vote out and if he was the MVP. She aked her questions in a way that very much tipped off Judd that Amanda and the rest of his alliance may not trust him anymore. He reassured Aaryn that he had no intentions of keeping Candice, and was definitely going to keep Amanda.
Because Amanda freaked out and tipped off Helen and Elissa that she knew something was going on, Andy had to pull Helen into the HOH room to do some damage control. They discussed Amanda just being paranoid and it not being a good idea to get her out this week. They then pulled Jessie into the HOH room to tell her that it wasn't going to happen. Jessie told them that she did not feel secure keeping Amanda, but she did not push the issue since the votes were not there. At the end of this conversation both Aaryn and GinaMarie entered the HOH room.
After Andy, Helen, and Jessie left, Aaryn began telling GinaMarie that she was sure that Amanda was getting voted out insted of Candice. She said she was positive that Elissa, Jessie, and Helen were going to be able to convince Judd or Andy to vote with them. GinaMarie said that she would just have to put up someone who was going to keep Candice as the replacement nom instead of Spencer.
GinaMarie then began holding meetings in the HOH room, starting with Judd. She kind of threatened him about his vote and insinuated that she may put him up if he didn't agree to vote the way she wante dhim to. Judd was completely confused as to who might be saying that he wasn't voting out Candice, and went on to convince GM that there would be no perks to him keeping Candice and that he definitely would not vote out Amanda. At the end of the meeting GM told him he was 120% safe, but the meeting was of course enough to set off Judd's paranoia.
After a few more meetings in the HOH room, GinaMarie was convinced that they still had the votes to get Candice out and decided to go back to her plan of nominating Spencer when Jessie pulls herself off the block. Meanwhile downstairs, Aaryn was telling McCrae and Andy how she needed GinaMarie gone sooner than later since she was freaking out and had the worst case of HOH-itis Aaryn had ever seen.
For a little while, there was a lull in game talk since Amanda was convinced that she was okay and that they had the votes, and Helen had stopped trying to push for a vote to get Amanda out.
During the lull dinner was cooked and served, and alcohol was delivered. Amanda decided she did not feel up to having her bachelorette party tonight, so the alcohol was distributed between the regular drinkers (Judd, McCrae, Aaryn, and Elissa).
The lull did not last long. Aaryn started telling Amanda some things Jessie had said about getting she and Helen out last week when Aaryn was HOH, and that set Amanda off all over again. Adding to her paranoia was the fact that Jessie and Elissa were in fact down in the cockpit room trying to figure out a way to get her voted out. Elissa's brain is still stuck on not voting out Candice and so she and Jessie have set their minds to trying to find the votes. Judd, Andy, and Candice at different moments in time tried to come into the cockpit, but in her awkward and very obvious Elissa way, she ran them all off one by one causing each one of them to run up to the HOH where Amanda was having her freak out so that they could report what they had seen.
Helen, Amanda, Aaryn, GinaMarie, and Andy all tried to talk over each other in the HOH room for quite a while, but they were all basically saying the same thing. It doesn't matter what Elissa or Jessie does, because they have all the votes they need and are not going to be swayed.
Eventually after being convinced once again that she was alright, Amanda decided she was okay and went outside to talk to McCrae leaving Judd to talk to Helen and GM about whether he made a stupid mistake by letting Jessie keep the veto.
As Judd's aggrivation with Jessie has grown this week, he has stopped sleeping in her bed and tonight was planning to sleep in GinaMarie's old bed and let Aaryn sleep there as well. Andy was planning to sleep with Jessie. Aaryn has been gradually (or not so gradually or subtly) putting the moves on Judd as he distances himself from Jessie. This became an issue tonight when Elissa found out where Aaryn was sleeping. Elissa told Jessie, and Jessie told Judd that she missed sleeping with him and wanted him to come back to her bed. Elissa then threw out "I dunno Jessie, I have a feeling a new sleeping situation is happening tonight" In her passive aggressive Elissa way. For a while this made things awkward and Judd talked to Amanda, McCrae, and Andy about it, but it actually led to a VERY interesting conversation.
At the height of all the weirdness with the bed situation, Jessie got Judd to come talk to her in the room where they normally sleep. She laid out the entire game as she sees it right now. She talked about how she knows that Amanda and McCrae have been controlling who does and doesn't go home from the very beginning. She told him how Helen knows that Andy is more loyal to them after tonight. She explained how Aaryn is also completely loyal to them and GinaMarie does whatever Aaryn tells her to. She broke down for him what would happen if he voted with Helen, Elissa, and herself to evict Amanda. She said McCrae would be after she and Helen more than anyone and would likely have to stick with Judd just to have someone unless he just wanted to stick with Aaryn. She told him Andy would likely become completely loyal to Helen once he no longer had Amanda because he would have no choice. She finished it by explaining that she knows that if Candice goes this week, she will go next week, and after that it will be Elissa, and then he or Helen going home. She had a lot of valid points. When she was done telling him how she saw things, she told him to just think about it and not decide what to do right away. Judd told her he would think about it and that he definitely saw what she was saying. Surprisingly, he did not tell Amanda and McCrae about this plan to get Amanda out...
When Judd did not tell Amanda and McCrae about his conversation with Jessie, I thought he was possibly considering what she said, and maybe he is a little bit since he did make out with Jessie for a while (stop that! NO MORE SHOWMANCES!!), but a little later, he did start to tell Andy that Jessie wants Amanda out, but that he did not want to tell Amanda because it would cause her to freak out, so my gut feeling is that he is not even going to take it into consideration.
At this point I still feel like Candice is leaving even though we have a few more days and a bachelorette party to get through before that happens. I expect to see Spencer put on the block in Jessie's place later today. Hopefully the scrambling will keep on coming. At least it isn't boring. As always you guys can follow me on twitter @ashes2ashes13 for more overnight feed updates. Until tomorrow night..
I've been behind on the feeds all day and all the game talk hasn't helped, so I'm just now seeing more conversations I missed. Judd had a very long conversation with Spencer in which he told him a little about the plotting to get Amanda out. He told Spencer he wants to stick with him and make some big moves. He hinted at taking bigger players out. I'm still watching the conversation, so I'm not sure where it will end up. It's an interesting one though.
Also, more interesting is that Jessie and Helen are making a plan to tell Judd with Elissa there too about Amanda thinking he is MVP and plotting to get him out of the house in the next week or so. I don't know if that will solidify Judd's vote...in fact I doubt it will, but it should cause some interesting drama for sure! Hang on to your butts, folks. This week should be a ride.
Judd is currently talking to Amanda and McCrae. He is hinting to Amanda that they need to put Elissa and Helen on the block next week if they can. Amanda is saying no way and that they are not after her. Judd is trying to subtly explain to Amanda that Helen really is a problem for her and Elissa is as well, but she isn't understanding what he is trying to do.
Judd has now told Amanda and McCrae the whole plan to get out Amanda and how it was orchestrated by Helen and Elissa. He told Amanda that the reason Jessie is acing so weird is because she is trying to pull his vote and get her out before Jury.
The Amanda, McCrae, and Judd convo is still going. Amanda has now told Judd why she thought he was MVP and all the reasons she felt like she couldn't trust him. Judd has told Amanda everything he knows about Helen and Elissa wanting her out. It appears that Judd is now back in a good position in their alliance again, and if Amanda can keep her freaking mouth shut, we might actually see Helen or Elissa walk this coming week. Very exciting things!!...I just wish they would go to bed and save it for my regular hours.
Well that very very long and very very detailed conversation between Amanda, McCrae, and Judd was apparently all for nothing. Judd completely figured out Helen and Elissa's plan and explained it in explicit detail to Amanda and McCrae. He explained the whys and the hows and Amanda admitted that she didn't trust him and thought he was MVP etc.. Everything looked great moving forward to get out Helen or Elissa, then Judd went to bed.
And Amanda says "HE'S LYING"... to which McCrae said "duh". So they are now talking about what a "liar" he is and how he just wants them to go after Helen and Elissa for him. Amanda really has made herself completely stupid via her paranoia.